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jeffy ole boy
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Posted: Thu Apr 17th, 2008 05:11 pm |
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Dave wrote: LOL Jeff...
Well, I'm at the point of needing to decide what switches I'm gonna have on the bars that actually work. I've gutted the housings and cut the wires (long pigtails) for the starter button, kill switch and right turn-signal. Brake light switch is AFU (Previous Owner).
Gonna have to pull the front of the tank loose to re-route the throttle cable. Might fit, might not. Clutch cable is about 4-inches too short...
Pissers - Broke the one good mirror lense I had and chipped the paint on the front of the tank! Damn... I got one of them kinda small oval type mirrors you can have Dave. Its mounted to a stem approx 6" long.. You pay the shipping and I'll mail it to ya... Or first I'll take a pic of it and send to ya if you want?
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Dave
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Posted: Thu Apr 17th, 2008 05:05 pm |
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LOL Jeff...
Well, I'm at the point of needing to decide what switches I'm gonna have on the bars that actually work. I've gutted the housings and cut the wires (long pigtails) for the starter button, kill switch and right turn-signal. Brake light switch is AFU (Previous Owner).
Gonna have to pull the front of the tank loose to re-route the throttle cable. Might fit, might not. Clutch cable is about 4-inches too short...
Pissers - Broke the one good mirror lense I had and chipped the paint on the front of the tank! Damn...
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jeffy ole boy
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Posted: Thu Apr 17th, 2008 04:18 pm |
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Dave wrote: Well, the bars and risers are on. Completely different feel from the drags. Waiting for auto-parts store to open. Need a few small pieces of hardware and the brake line... Might wanta pick up some underarm deoderant while your out too Davo, Cause your arm pits will be in the breeze now you know...  Can't be stinkin' up the neighborhood....LOL!!
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Dave
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Posted: Thu Apr 17th, 2008 03:31 pm |
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| Well, the bars and risers are on. Completely different feel from the drags. Waiting for auto-parts store to open. Need a few small pieces of hardware and the brake line...
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Dave
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Posted: Thu Apr 17th, 2008 10:07 am |
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Been thinkin' about that one a bit there Preacher. (banjo to brake line) I've seen someone else do it. 'course that was another gray-beard and he did it with a shovel too...
I don't really think anything I've got in mind is gonna be all that difficult. Pretty sure someone has done it all before. So, I just have to get my rear-end in gear and tear into it...LOL
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the preacher
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Posted: Thu Apr 17th, 2008 09:13 am |
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yer welcome...
ps: adapter for front brake line, find an Indy that handles Drag Specialties, they have the best selection of brake stuff like that.
You need an NPT to 10mm Banjo adapter if that is what you have on the handlebar M/C, BUT: last I checked, they do NOT have a male to banjo, so you would have to use a connector, which is gonna bulk up the fitting right where it shows the most. Might better use a braided, (again, Drag, they are a little smaller than Goodridge) as you can get the exact fittings you need already installed.
re: grey beard...yeah, and dont you forget it, young'un...ROFL
RSDF
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Dave
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Posted: Thu Apr 17th, 2008 02:09 am |
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LMAO Empty!!
I know that!! He's forgotten more about these things than I know. I've got some reading and digesting to do with what Preacher posted. Some of my ideas look like they'll work. While others? Good question.
Gotta have a "Gray-Beard" around to keep things right
Thanks Preacher...
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empty
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Posted: Thu Apr 17th, 2008 02:03 am |
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the preacher wrote: re:
1 - Brake lines - I want the bars as clean as possible. Thinking about using a hard line for the brake line instead of braided stainless? How about running the hard-line inside the bars? Any one have an idea of the fittings needed for converting from a banjo-fitting (dual disc master cylinder) to a 3/16ths hard-line?
inside the bars too hard. Use 3/16ths steel from the auto parts store, with an adapter to banjo on the M/C..you can curve it so close to the bar you can hardly see it, the steel will polish up halfway decent and a coat of carwax will keep it that way. run the steel to the T under your bottom tree, leave the flexible ones as they are to the calipers.
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2 - Wiring - Planning on running the wiring inside the bars. Not sure that I'm going to use all the original wiring either. I haven't had turn-signals for a long time on my bike. Not really a priority now either. Seriously considering moving some of the electrical switches off the bars too. Really don't want a bunch of extra, unused wires on the bike or inside the bars.
no problem, use 5/16ths or 3/8ths where you need to get in under the switch box, use 3/8ths or 1/2 on the bottom of the bar to get them out.
You can cut down on one by hooking one side of the horn switch to the power feeding the headlight switch, then you only have one going out to the horn. Make SURE you deburr the INSIDE of the holes, and I always use a short length of shrink tubing that I didnt shrink over all the wires as a rub protector.
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Throttle Cable(s) - I've been running a single cable on the throttle for a long time too. Considering going back to a push/pull set up with dual cables again.
if it aint broke, dont fix it...dual is just something else to adjust or replace...if single works, leave it
re: 4 - Risers - I've got two sets of risers. (a) stubby, 2-inch OEM straight or (b) 4-up, 2-back curved risers. I got a feeling that the taller risers will create some issues with the bars. Seems like there will be more leverage against the bushings in the top tree. Work great with drag bars.
But, with taller, wider bars? Chances are I'm going to end up with the shorter risers...
short OEM will work fine on the stock isolators, have run them on my 16s, and running them on the 12s now. Little bit of leverage give, but not bad.
4 up, 2 back will require solid mount converters, (Barnett makes them, so do others) too much leverage even with 12s on 4 inch risers.
re: - Clutch Cable - I've talked to the indy about this. According to him, I'll have to replace the entire cable. I haven't done any shopping on this yet. May even consider going to a juice-type clutch. But, I think that cost is gonna kill that idea.
just figure out how much higher the clutch lever is going to be..i.e., measure from the clutch lever end of the stock cable to where the new lever location will be, then order that much over. I get away with the stock on the 12s, but I run a 4 speed, I think the cable hooks differently.
thats all I can help ya with bro...tires, yer on yer own, aint never had a set of narrow glides apart, rebuilding the MC aint hard, just DO NOT sand the bore to clean it up, you can't get it straight enough..use a hone if it is bad, some 0000steel wool soaked in brake fluid if it aint.
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Dis ole guy's good.
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the preacher
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Posted: Wed Apr 16th, 2008 10:48 pm |
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re:
1 - Brake lines - I want the bars as clean as possible. Thinking about using a hard line for the brake line instead of braided stainless? How about running the hard-line inside the bars? Any one have an idea of the fittings needed for converting from a banjo-fitting (dual disc master cylinder) to a 3/16ths hard-line?
inside the bars too hard. Use 3/16ths steel from the auto parts store, with an adapter to banjo on the M/C..you can curve it so close to the bar you can hardly see it, the steel will polish up halfway decent and a coat of carwax will keep it that way. run the steel to the T under your bottom tree, leave the flexible ones as they are to the calipers.
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2 - Wiring - Planning on running the wiring inside the bars. Not sure that I'm going to use all the original wiring either. I haven't had turn-signals for a long time on my bike. Not really a priority now either. Seriously considering moving some of the electrical switches off the bars too. Really don't want a bunch of extra, unused wires on the bike or inside the bars.
no problem, use 5/16ths or 3/8ths where you need to get in under the switch box, use 3/8ths or 1/2 on the bottom of the bar to get them out.
You can cut down on one by hooking one side of the horn switch to the power feeding the headlight switch, then you only have one going out to the horn. Make SURE you deburr the INSIDE of the holes, and I always use a short length of shrink tubing that I didnt shrink over all the wires as a rub protector.
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Throttle Cable(s) - I've been running a single cable on the throttle for a long time too. Considering going back to a push/pull set up with dual cables again.
if it aint broke, dont fix it...dual is just something else to adjust or replace...if single works, leave it
re: 4 - Risers - I've got two sets of risers. (a) stubby, 2-inch OEM straight or (b) 4-up, 2-back curved risers. I got a feeling that the taller risers will create some issues with the bars. Seems like there will be more leverage against the bushings in the top tree. Work great with drag bars.
But, with taller, wider bars? Chances are I'm going to end up with the shorter risers...
short OEM will work fine on the stock isolators, have run them on my 16s, and running them on the 12s now. Little bit of leverage give, but not bad.
4 up, 2 back will require solid mount converters, (Barnett makes them, so do others) too much leverage even with 12s on 4 inch risers.
re: - Clutch Cable - I've talked to the indy about this. According to him, I'll have to replace the entire cable. I haven't done any shopping on this yet. May even consider going to a juice-type clutch. But, I think that cost is gonna kill that idea.
just figure out how much higher the clutch lever is going to be..i.e., measure from the clutch lever end of the stock cable to where the new lever location will be, then order that much over. I get away with the stock on the 12s, but I run a 4 speed, I think the cable hooks differently.
thats all I can help ya with bro...tires, yer on yer own, aint never had a set of narrow glides apart, rebuilding the MC aint hard, just DO NOT sand the bore to clean it up, you can't get it straight enough..use a hone if it is bad, some 0000steel wool soaked in brake fluid if it aint.
RSDF
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marc
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Posted: Wed Apr 16th, 2008 09:26 pm |
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I had a 21 inch on the front of my Wide Glide...Looked nice but not much meat on that little tire...Was lucky to get 10,000 miles out of those tires...I'd stick with your dual discs...JMHO...
Clutch cables - What Length & what year is your bike? Just looked in my J&P Catalogue and it looks like black vinyl is 2/3ds the price of stainless.
Throttle cables - Same as above...
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Dave
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Posted: Wed Apr 16th, 2008 07:05 pm |
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Jeff - Yeah, I'm sure Preacher has the smarts to pull off what I'm talking about. If he hasn't already done most of it himself. He's a sharp guy and has been around awhile...
Empty - Probably gonna be a real pain to try running a hard line inside the bars. But, even out side, it would be cleaner than a SS braided line.
And one of these days, I'm gonna do the Metzlers...
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empty
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Posted: Wed Apr 16th, 2008 05:12 pm |
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Apes help keep your underarms dry, that's convenience right there now.
I predict running hard lines through the handlebars will be a terrible pain in the arse. I have also found that Metzlers cost about $20 more than Dunlops, but seem to have twice the amount of rubber ....time will tell how well they last.
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jeffy ole boy
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Posted: Wed Apr 16th, 2008 04:47 pm |
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| SOunds like fun Dave! and will give it a new look! Yeah you will for sure need longer cables and so forth.... I bet Preacher can give you some great feedback on all of those issues your going to have with the high bars.....
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Dave
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Posted: Wed Apr 16th, 2008 04:13 pm |
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Man, the forum has been quiet lately. So, lets see if I can stir up some conversation...
I'm planning some changes to my bike in the real near future. I've picked up a set of narrow, 30-inch wide 12-inch tall, apes for it. There's a damn good chance that none of my existing wires, cables or brake line will work. So, here goes a few questions:
1 - Brake lines - I want the bars as clean as possible. Thinking about using a hard line for the brake line instead of braided stainless? How about running the hard-line inside the bars? Any one have an idea of the fittings needed for converting from a banjo-fitting (dual disc master cylinder) to a 3/16ths hard-line?
2 - Wiring - Planning on running the wiring inside the bars. Not sure that I'm going to use all the original wiring either. I haven't had turn-signals for a long time on my bike. Not really a priority now either. Seriously considering moving some of the electrical switches off the bars too. Really don't want a bunch of extra, unused wires on the bike or inside the bars.
3 - Throttle Cable(s) - I've been running a single cable on the throttle for a long time too. Considering going back to a push/pull set up with dual cables again.
4 - Risers - I've got two sets of risers. (a) stubby, 2-inch OEM straight or (b) 4-up, 2-back curved risers. I got a feeling that the taller risers will create some issues with the bars. Seems like there will be more leverage against the bushings in the top tree. Work great with drag bars.
But, with taller, wider bars? Chances are I'm going to end up with the shorter risers...
5 - Clutch Cable - I've talked to the indy about this. According to him, I'll have to replace the entire cable. I haven't done any shopping on this yet. May even consider going to a juice-type clutch. But, I think that cost is gonna kill that idea.
Just plain wear and tear items -
Tires - Been running a ribbed fron for about 6 months. Picked up a set of tires before I had the engine gone through last year. Rear tire (Chinese copy of a Dunlop 402) is wearing like cast iron. Still looks like new. Front is a ribbed, I don't remember what the brand is. But, this thing is shot. Just about bald and it got to the point, that I just wasn't comfortable running it anymore. (You've seen how worn I'll go on a tire before) I ordered a Dunlop 401 to replace it.
Brakes - Ordered a rear master cylinder rebuild kit. Just doesn't seem to hold any pressure anymore. No leaks at the caliper. I'm running a 4-piston caliper in the back from an 03 "Touring Model" and when everything is working right, this thing has some serious stopping power. So, the MC is going to be rebuilt.
Front End - Seems like the front end is due for some serious attention. Probably going to go through the process of rebuilding it. 39-MM Narrow-Glide with dual discs. Lowers are chromed. Thinking about going to a 21-inch with a single disc too. Again, cost is probably going to put a halt to that idea too.
There will be other things involved. Will be working my way through all this, one way or another.
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