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Randy in Pensacola
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Posted: Thu Nov 17th, 2005 02:50 pm |
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| They might as well hop on the band wagon too.......
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Mikey
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Posted: Thu Nov 17th, 2005 02:48 pm |
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Nevada prison inmates building 'chopper' motorcycles
CARSON CITY, Nev. (AP) - Legislators were told Monday that the Nevada prison industries program should soon have the necessary approvals to sell high-priced, convict-made motorcycles - through its "Big House Choppers" venture.
Howard Skolnik, who runs the prison industries program, told a legislative oversight panel that payment of a $ 15,000 licensing fee to the state Department of Motor Vehicles will clear the way for sale the custom choppers - at $ 40,000 or more apiece.
"We are producing the only true outlaw motorcycles being produced by outlaws in the United States," Skolnik said, boasting that buyers will even get a certificate that pieces of scrapped prison cell bars went into their bikes - in the form of five-inch-long fender supports.
"Little things like that make these bikes look desirable," he added.
"You know, there's no accounting for bad taste, senator," Skolnik said to state Sen. Bob Beers, R-Las Vegas, who asked for details on the program and its market appeal. "People want these bikes. They really do."
Only two convicts are now working on the choppers and already have produced their first, a cherry-colored motorcycle with a big, 110-cubic-inch engine and a prison guard tower painted on it. But Skolnik said the program eventually will employ 20 to 30 convicts.
Skolnik also said that since word of the venture began circulating a few months ago, he's had inquiries about setting up dealerships in several states. He added that middle-aged and older bikers with money to spare are a key part of "a huge market" of potential buyers of the choppers.
The venture, with the motto "Built with Conviction," started in a small wooden shed at the Southern Desert Correctional Center, but Skolnik said it may be able to move into a 10,000-square-foot area within a large industrial building at the High Desert State Prison. Both prisons are in southern Nevada.
The High Desert space was initially set aside for a California company that wanted to manufacture equipment for brew pubs, but Skolnik told the legislators the company has been "totally inactive" and will be removed unless its Nevada operation is running by mid-December.
The prison industries programs are designed to be self-supporting, so they don't rely on taxpayer money. Inmates can earn $ 5.15 an hour for their work, and in the process learn a trade that will help them on the outside once they're released.
Skolnik said a young inmate who worked with the two convicts who built the first chopper recently was released and, because of the skills he learned in the industries program, quickly got a job paying nearly $ 20 an hour
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Posted: Thu Nov 17th, 2005 11:25 am |
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| Thanks for all the compliments, never been thrown out of my bar, though there have been times I should have removed myself earlier.
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weasle
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Posted: Wed Nov 16th, 2005 10:38 pm |
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| great lookin bar man , got one in the basement , next to the rec room , aint never been thrown out of it or arested in it .
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zippo
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Posted: Wed Nov 16th, 2005 10:00 pm |
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Sorry Babe, just couldn't resist.
Great bar MT, looks like you can relax and if you have one more than you should - oh well yuour at home.
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Babe
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Posted: Wed Nov 16th, 2005 09:46 pm |
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Holy crap Zippo! yer just a shit today....lol Every post I goto read, you are pickin on me in it!! LOL
ZIPPO!!!!!
very nice bar tho...more and more folks seem to be going that way....!
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zippo
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Posted: Wed Nov 16th, 2005 09:38 pm |
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| Gotta behave though, no smashing up the place, so maybe Babe shouldn't attend. You know how mean drunk biker babes can be.
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Randy in Pensacola
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Posted: Wed Nov 16th, 2005 08:48 pm |
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empty wrote:
This is my cure to DUI, I turned my livingroom into a bar after the kids moved out;
I know a bar in Texas we can have a reunion at?????LOL
The drink prices are almost free.....
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empty
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Posted: Wed Nov 16th, 2005 04:56 pm |
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This is my cure to DUI, I turned my livingroom into a bar after the kids moved out;
Attachment: Copy of bar5.jpg (Downloaded 129 times)
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zippo
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Posted: Wed Nov 16th, 2005 04:46 pm |
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NM is one of the worst states per capita in DUI's. Taking licenses away don't do shit. These morons drive with no licenses and no insurance anyway. Honest to God, you read in the papers here every couple of monthd where some drunk killed someone and it turns out he has had a dozen or more DUI's.
Gotta put the MF's in jail for a long time to keep them off the road.
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Babe
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Posted: Wed Nov 16th, 2005 04:01 pm |
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| Our court systems are overflowing with lawbreakers! Alot of places look at drunk drivers...as...well that isnt as bad as murder/rape/etc. And its unfortunate. Or they need the jail space for harder criminals. Hey I woould rather have a rapist locked up than a drunk driver! But your going to find, most guys that do get jail time....get out quickly. And if they lose their license...they go ut and drive anyways.
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weasle
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Posted: Wed Nov 16th, 2005 04:00 pm |
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| marc dont come to ohio expecting that , 1st offense 30 days in jail ,usually 27 days suspended, first offense , pluss 800$ fine and court costs. a deturent ?? papyers full of names every day in the cort records. and almost forgot 6 mo liscence suspention. Last edited on Wed Nov 16th, 2005 04:02 pm by weasle |
marc
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Posted: Wed Nov 16th, 2005 03:39 pm |
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Mikey wrote: If they want to be serious..throw the fuckers in jail the first time, Prison the next....I have a problem with letting LEO's pull you over without reasonable cause...We had a little girl in the next town over..6 years old or so.. crippled for life by a drunk driver...the accident was his 6th offense drunk driving..No law is gonna prevent that...the Penalties might tho..JMHO I definitely agree with you Mikey....Unfortunately no one has the balls to throw them in jail the first time or give them a hefty fine...What really blows my mind is how does a person who has 2 or more DUI's have a license???? Duh... I hear/read every few weeks about someone person in an accident or pulled over that has had a few DUI's.....Some jerk off got out of a DUI last week because he saw a DUI check point ahead of him, turned down a side street to get around it and the cops saw him do it and went after him and got him...Court said cops can not stop him for making a legal turn down a side street...That is BS....
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weasle
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Posted: Wed Nov 16th, 2005 03:35 pm |
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| ya know , i aint ever seen one of them drunk driver plates here in ohio, but after the third offense they take your liscence for life. we just had some kid , drunk , miss a curve hit a house , going through it, killing a 7 yr old girl. and critically injuring her parents. about 5 miles from my place. so much for drunk driving laws. charged with vehicular homicide. may get a few peoples attention when they have to many and drive.
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empty
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Posted: Wed Nov 16th, 2005 03:15 pm |
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| If they wanted to take a chunk out of the drunk drivers issue, they could always start by getting rid of bar parking lots. ....2 drink bar limits unless you show proof of a designated driver. there are a lot of ideas to 'prevent' the issue.
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Mikey
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Posted: Wed Nov 16th, 2005 02:52 pm |
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| Pink Plates aint gonna do shit to stop anyone...If they want to be serious..throw the fuckers in jail the first time, Prison the next....I have a problem with letting LEO's pull you over without reasonable cause...We had a little girl in the next town over..6 years old or so.. crippled for life by a drunk driver...the accident was his 6th offense drunk driving..No law is gonna prevent that...the Penalties might tho..JMHO
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zippo
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Posted: Wed Nov 16th, 2005 02:44 pm |
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Dave wrote: This is fucked up in so many ways...
Lawmaker Wants Special Plates For DUI Offenders
POSTED: 5:29 pm PST November 15, 2005
UPDATED: 5:45 pm PST November 15, 2005
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- A Florida lawmaker wants convicted drunk drivers with restricted driving privileges to have to place bright pink license plates on their vehicles. And the first three letters on the plate would be: DUI.
State Sen. Mike Fasano said pink plates might embarrass drivers and make them think twice before they drive drunk. His plan would also allow police to pull over vehicles with pink plates even if officers don't have probable cause.
The group Mothers Against Drunk Driving supports the pink plate plan, but the ACLU said the plates might constitute cruel and unusual punishment.
Ohio and Michigan have similar laws.
http://www.nbc4.tv/news/5334073/detail.html
It couldn't work in NM, with the first 3 characters "DUI" there wouldn't be enough numbers left for all the DUI's in this state.
Well remember the sheriff on AZ that made the prisoners wear pink drawers?
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Babe
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Posted: Wed Nov 16th, 2005 02:28 pm |
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Empty has a point....new laws, mean more laws to break! If you look at society now....and then think back to some of the crap we got away with.....well now days you would be in jail in a heartbeat!
Everyone is entitled to a mistake.....after that, its your own damn fault.
If they want to do pink plates.....fine, but after the second offense maybe. AS I said everyone makes a mistake........but when it becomes a habit.....then they need to do something.
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empty
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Posted: Wed Nov 16th, 2005 01:16 pm |
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marc wrote: I don't have a problem with the pink DUI plates....These guys & gals get off to easy as it is...I do not care how they feel....I do have a big problem with the police being allowed to pull them over without probable cause...
I understand your initial thoughts, but if that is allowed then why not chartreuse plates for anyone that has ever been caught speeding? I think this is one of those scenarios where someone thinks 'adding one more law will change things'. I remember back about 6 years ago where some idiot went to a church meeting over in Fort Worth and started shooting people. When it was all over with there were people stating 'we need a new law to....<insert redundancy here>'. The guy broke 15 laws doing what he was doing, another law wouldn't have prevented it.
MT
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marc
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Posted: Wed Nov 16th, 2005 12:54 pm |
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| I don't have a problem with the pink DUI plates....These guys & gals get off to easy as it is...I do not care how they feel....I do have a big problem with the police being allowed to pull them over without probable cause... Last edited on Wed Nov 16th, 2005 12:59 pm by marc |
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