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Dave
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Posted: Wed Nov 16th, 2005 12:47 pm |
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This is fucked up in so many ways...
Lawmaker Wants Special Plates For DUI Offenders
POSTED: 5:29 pm PST November 15, 2005
UPDATED: 5:45 pm PST November 15, 2005
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- A Florida lawmaker wants convicted drunk drivers with restricted driving privileges to have to place bright pink license plates on their vehicles. And the first three letters on the plate would be: DUI.
State Sen. Mike Fasano said pink plates might embarrass drivers and make them think twice before they drive drunk. His plan would also allow police to pull over vehicles with pink plates even if officers don't have probable cause.
The group Mothers Against Drunk Driving supports the pink plate plan, but the ACLU said the plates might constitute cruel and unusual punishment.
Ohio and Michigan have similar laws.
http://www.nbc4.tv/news/5334073/detail.html
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zippo
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Posted: Tue Nov 15th, 2005 02:50 pm |
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| Now some moron in Las Cruces (The Crosses) NM is filing suit to change the name of the city. Fucking morons, just wait till the radical muslims take over this country! OBL will damn sure make Allah be on everything.
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Dave
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Posted: Tue Nov 15th, 2005 02:27 pm |
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| Wish this clown would choose option 3 Empty...
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empty
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Posted: Tue Nov 15th, 2005 11:34 am |
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Dave wrote:
The church's "three suggestions" are "question, be honest and do what's right." Newdow said it wouldn't be right to take up a collection when the money says "In God We Trust."
Since they don't seem to appreciate the money system in these here United States, perhaps he could just;
a. trade in goat skins and chicken beaks
b. go to some other country that has 'in Beelzebub we trust' on their money.
c. leave
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Randy in Pensacola
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Posted: Tue Nov 15th, 2005 11:16 am |
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Nope, as long as we roll over and give into him why should he?
Dave wrote:
Doesn't this idiot ever stop? He has to know that all paper money in the US is owned by the "Federal Reserve" and not a part of the government? It's been in court before. Because cash is private property. One other thing comes to mind, why would there be an Atheist Church? Isn't a church supposed to be a place of worship?
Atheist Plans Suit Over 'In God We Trust' On Money
UPDATED: 3:53 am PST November 14, 2005
SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- The atheist who's spent years trying to ban recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools said he'll file a new lawsuit this week.
Michael Newdow plans to ask a federal court to order removal of the national motto "In God We Trust" from U.S. coins and currency. He said it violates the religious rights of atheists who belong to his "First Amendment Church of True Science."
The church's "three suggestions" are "question, be honest and do what's right." Newdow said it wouldn't be right to take up a collection when the money says "In God We Trust."
Last year, the Supreme Court dismissed Newdow's lawsuit over the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance because he doesn't have custody of his daughter, in whose name the lawsuit was filed.
Newdow has resurrected that case by filing an identical lawsuit on behalf of two families.
http://www.nbc4.tv/irresistible/5317561/detail.html
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Dave
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Posted: Tue Nov 15th, 2005 10:17 am |
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Doesn't this idiot ever stop? He has to know that all paper money in the US is owned by the "Federal Reserve" and not a part of the government? It's been in court before. Because cash is private property. One other thing comes to mind, why would there be an Atheist Church? Isn't a church supposed to be a place of worship?
Atheist Plans Suit Over 'In God We Trust' On Money
UPDATED: 3:53 am PST November 14, 2005
SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- The atheist who's spent years trying to ban recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools said he'll file a new lawsuit this week.
Michael Newdow plans to ask a federal court to order removal of the national motto "In God We Trust" from U.S. coins and currency. He said it violates the religious rights of atheists who belong to his "First Amendment Church of True Science."
The church's "three suggestions" are "question, be honest and do what's right." Newdow said it wouldn't be right to take up a collection when the money says "In God We Trust."
Last year, the Supreme Court dismissed Newdow's lawsuit over the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance because he doesn't have custody of his daughter, in whose name the lawsuit was filed.
Newdow has resurrected that case by filing an identical lawsuit on behalf of two families.
http://www.nbc4.tv/irresistible/5317561/detail.html
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Babe
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Posted: Mon Nov 14th, 2005 05:58 pm |
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President Bush May Send Marines For French Assistance
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>11/11/2005 - Shelby Trial
>President Bush has authorized the Joint Chiefs to begin drawing up a
battle
>plan to pull France's ass out of the fire again. Facing an apparent
>overwhelming force of up to 400 pissed off teenagers Mr. Bush doubts
>France's ability to hold off the little pissants. "Hell, if the last
two
>world wars are any indication, I would expect France to surrender any
day
>now", said Bush.
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>Joint Chiefs head, Gen. Peter Pace, warned the President that it might
be
>necessary to send up to 5 marines to get things under control. The
general
>admitted that 5 marines may be overkill but he wanted to get this
thing
>under control within 24 hours of arriving on scene. He stated he was
having
>a hard time finding even one marine to help those ungrateful bastards
out
>for a third time but thought that he could persuade a few women
marines to
>do the job before they went on pregnancy leave.
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>President Bush asked Gen. Pace to get our marines out of there as soon
as
>possible after order was restored. He also reminded Gen. Pace to make
sure
>the marines did not take soap, razors, or deodorant with them. The
least
>they stand out the better.
he he
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zippo
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Posted: Mon Nov 14th, 2005 04:10 pm |
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French claim Paris riots “more cultured” than American riots
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Tuesday, 08 November 2005
French rioters add a little "je ne sais quoi" to their accelerant
French authorities have hit back at international claims they are not doing enough to stem worsening violence in the Parisian suburbs, claiming that French rioting is “richer” than recent problems in the UK and US.
“Unrest after the New Orleans hurricane showed America to be deeply divided country – on the one hand the wealthiest nation on earth, but still blighted with an underclass unable to escape a cycle of poverty and desperation,” said President Jacques Chirac. “It’s a rather clichéd motif. The variety of tensions leading to cars being set on fire here is much more nuanced, and ultimately more morally profound.”
French authorities have been reluctant to send in troops to quell the protests, insisting that a military presence will only be legitimate with UN backing. Bringing the riots under control has been dismissed as “Anglo-Saxon policing” by members of the Government. “We do not want to relinquish our proud French traditions just because they cause mass civil unrest,” said Social Affairs Minister Jean-Louis Borloo. “We will not trade in racism, mass unemployment and arrogant timidity in policing for a “McCulture” of law and order.”
Leading academics have also backed the government’s stance, comparing Atlantic riots unfavourably to the Continental model. “What is the American rioter’s central modality?” asked Julia Kristeva, writing in Le Monde. “Is it not to attain those material goods he is denied by force? He is not a revolutionary, but rather a consumer with a cobble-stone in place of a credit card. Whereas the French rioter is always already valorised within the slippery confines of his own meta-textuality.”
Nevertheless, Interior Minister Nicholas Sarkovksy says he will bring the full force of the Government down on the rioters, promising to issue a number of tough cultural grants to offenders, and to cordon off affected suburbs as EU-recognized Zones of Self-Expression
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zippo
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Posted: Fri Nov 11th, 2005 05:13 pm |
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I found this on snoopes.com which has verified all these statements by these now very vocal opponents of our going into Iraq.
One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.
"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.
"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.
"There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seing and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have alway s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,
"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.
NOW THE DEMOCRATS SAY PRESIDENT BUSH LIED, THAT THERE NEVER WERE ANY WMD'S AND HE TOOK US TO WAR FOR HIS OIL BUDDIES??? Right!!!
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zippo
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Posted: Fri Nov 11th, 2005 02:53 pm |
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Dave wrote: Randy in Pensacola wrote:
Dave,
Why dont you tell us how you really feel about Barbra Boxer...I know you are holding back...LOL
I agree with you, she is a waste of oxygen....
Well, as much as I dislike Barbara Boxer and Diane Fienstien (Two Senators from California), Both of them are "Co-Sponsers" of that ammendment.
But, the part that pisses me off, is that Missouri stands to lose about 1,800 jobs if the line closes down, and that wouldn't be too far off in the future. We are getting ready to deliver ship 150 of the 180 in the contract. (we build 15 a year, you do the math) But, one or the other of those worthless POS should have been the one that authored that ammendment.
Boeing in California stands to lose more than 8,000 jobs. That doesn't even take into account all the other companies that would lose work and jobs in California. Then McCain from Arizona voted against it. This guy just amazes me. All the wiring for that airplane is being manufactured in Mesa, Arizona. Figure that one out. McCain also killed the Boeing 767 Tanker deal, another airplane that has all it's wiring manufactured in Mesa. That guy cost Arizona a bunch of jobs pushing to kill that lease/purchase deal.
I realize that the spending has to be limited. But, when you purposely put people that voted you into office, out of work... you know Dave, when McCain first came on the scene, I was impressed with him and disappointed he was defeated in the primaries. Maybe cause of his POW experience. Now I have very strong reservations and I know I would never vote for him (unless maybe the alternative was Hillary).
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Randy in Pensacola
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Posted: Fri Nov 11th, 2005 01:15 pm |
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Stole this from another board.
Breaking news from France:
AP and UPI reported today that the French government announced that it has raised its terror alert level from "Run" to "Hide." The only two higher levels in France are "Collaborate" and "Surrender". The raise was precipitated by a recent fire which destroyed France's white flag factory, thereby disabling its military.
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Dave
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Posted: Fri Nov 11th, 2005 12:32 pm |
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Randy in Pensacola wrote:
Dave,
Why dont you tell us how you really feel about Barbra Boxer...I know you are holding back...LOL
I agree with you, she is a waste of oxygen....
Well, as much as I dislike Barbara Boxer and Diane Fienstien (Two Senators from California), Both of them are "Co-Sponsers" of that ammendment.
But, the part that pisses me off, is that Missouri stands to lose about 1,800 jobs if the line closes down, and that wouldn't be too far off in the future. We are getting ready to deliver ship 150 of the 180 in the contract. (we build 15 a year, you do the math) But, one or the other of those worthless POS should have been the one that authored that ammendment.
Boeing in California stands to lose more than 8,000 jobs. That doesn't even take into account all the other companies that would lose work and jobs in California. Then McCain from Arizona voted against it. This guy just amazes me. All the wiring for that airplane is being manufactured in Mesa, Arizona. Figure that one out. McCain also killed the Boeing 767 Tanker deal, another airplane that has all it's wiring manufactured in Mesa. That guy cost Arizona a bunch of jobs pushing to kill that lease/purchase deal.
I realize that the spending has to be limited. But, when you purposely put people that voted you into office, out of work... Last edited on Fri Nov 11th, 2005 12:33 pm by Dave |
Randy in Pensacola
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Posted: Fri Nov 11th, 2005 01:19 am |
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Dave,
Why dont you tell us how you really feel about Barbra Boxer...I know you are holding back...LOL
I agree with you, she is a waste of oxygen....
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Babe
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Posted: Thu Nov 10th, 2005 10:04 pm |
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zippo wrote: Babe wrote: Is it just me?......Why is it that in big cities it seems the majority of ppl want crap like this? Is it just that they scream louder? Or have they been citified too long to be able to protect themselves??
I dunno in our neighborhood I sure wouldnt wanna break into any houses.....they all hunt, and shoot first ask later!~ 
My 2 cents again.........hey! amazing how fast you guys turned this convo away from bras! LOL
Bras, what a place for a concealed weapon! A popgun in with them cannons!
Hey now yer talking!! I would wear one! LOL
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zippo
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Posted: Thu Nov 10th, 2005 08:53 pm |
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Babe wrote: Is it just me?......Why is it that in big cities it seems the majority of ppl want crap like this? Is it just that they scream louder? Or have they been citified too long to be able to protect themselves??
I dunno in our neighborhood I sure wouldnt wanna break into any houses.....they all hunt, and shoot first ask later!~
My 2 cents again.........hey! amazing how fast you guys turned this convo away from bras! LOL
Bras, what a place for a concealed weapon! A popgun in with them cannons!
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Dave
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Posted: Thu Nov 10th, 2005 08:38 pm |
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Where was that useless bitch Barbara Boxer and why didn't she get into this one? I'd sorta like to have a job for a few more years. Kinda got used to bringing home a paycheck every week...
Talent-Lieberman bill would keep C-17 line open
The Boeing Co.'s C-17 Globemaster III production line in St. Louis would stay open under an amendment passed Thursday by the U.S. Senate.
The amendment, sponsored by U.S. Sens. Jim Talent (R-Mo.) and Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.) would authorize a contract for up to 42 new C-17 transport aircraft and keep production lines open until a further study of the military's needs is needed. In addition, it requires the Secretary of Defense to certify the need for additional C-17s after looking at additional requirements of the military.
A draft version of a recent U.S. Department of Defense study recommended no more purchases of C-17s beyond the 180 currently in the works, Talent said.
Boeing's C-17 line employs about 1,800 workers in Missouri and generates $776 million in economic activity. The C-17 is the primary air transport used by the U.S. military to transport forces and cargo overseas.
"This amendment is crucial to ensure that the United States has the airlift we need to deploy and sustain our forces overseas," said Talent, in a statement.
Chicago-based Boeing Co.'s (NYSE: BA) Integrated Defense Systems unit, its largest subsidiary, is based in St. Louis and is the area's second-largest employer.
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marc
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Posted: Thu Nov 10th, 2005 08:29 pm |
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| Go granny go......They should give her a medal....
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Vero Steve
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Posted: Thu Nov 10th, 2005 08:27 pm |
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When are these left wing ass holes gonna figure out that criminals don't follow laws no matter how many you pass. Thats why their called criminals............
What a bunch of Jackasses.................
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empty
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Posted: Thu Nov 10th, 2005 08:23 pm |
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If it makes anyone feel better, here in Texas we have had conceal carry for a very long time .....it works. The state colaborates with other states that have conceal carry and will allow other state's licensed citizens carry. Timing in this issue is rather interesting, read the following URL about a local 'grandma' that shot an intruder a couple of times.
http://www.nbc5i.com/news/5289996/detail.html
Something else that is funny is to listen to the 911 tape, you can hear the gun go off. the guy says 'you shot me' ...the grandma says "I told you I was gonna shoot you"
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Abo
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Posted: Thu Nov 10th, 2005 08:03 pm |
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Hey man. An unarmed citizen might as well bend over. IMHO..Ride Free. Abo
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