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weasle
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Posted: Wed Mar 29th, 2006 04:36 pm |
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most of the gas here in ohio has 15 % ethanal , no ill effects on my car or truck , or bike. except the mpg drops a little from 100% gas. not good for older vehicles with metal gas tanks though.
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FLHP Rider
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Posted: Wed Mar 29th, 2006 02:08 pm |
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| They are killing us with this gas price crap. I say rejet to a super rich setting and start using ethanol in our bikes. This crap has got to end. A friend of mine is already working on making his own Ethanol. If it works, I'm going to copy his design and start making my own fuel. I know I can't run my car and truck on the stuff, but if I mix it right, I can safely use 15% in my vehicles. If I rejet the bike, I should be able to use E85.
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empty
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| Location: | Plano, Texas USA |
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Posted: Wed Mar 29th, 2006 01:35 pm |
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marc wrote: Vero Steve wrote: $2.91 for super this morning to fill up my Dyna........reg is $2.63 Hope the bastards choke on the profits......................And then Die!!!!!!!! The dieing part would take the pain away, can't be having that.
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marc
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Posted: Wed Mar 29th, 2006 01:33 pm |
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Vero Steve wrote: $2.91 for super this morning to fill up my Dyna........reg is $2.63 Hope the bastards choke on the profits......................And then Die!!!!!!!!
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weasle
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Posted: Wed Mar 29th, 2006 12:11 pm |
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| regular 2.25 yst morning , 2 .59 in the afternoon . WTF.
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Vero Steve
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Posted: Wed Mar 29th, 2006 10:24 am |
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| $2.91 for super this morning to fill up my Dyna........reg is $2.63 Hope the bastards choke on the profits......................
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marc
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Posted: Tue Mar 28th, 2006 10:16 pm |
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Mexican gas prices.....
Regular is about $2.40 and Diesel is $2.15...Thought it would be less...
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zippo
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Posted: Tue Mar 21st, 2006 02:32 pm |
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Dave wrote: No problem Weasle...
Like I said, a Diesel has a narrow power band, like 1600 to 2200 rpm. So, the fuel flow doesn't change a lot.
Since it's a Ford and (I think) it has that PowerStroke engine in it, it should do pretty good on mileage and wear and tear. Those are supposed to be a real good engine...
By the way Zippo - Don't run that thing out of fuel. Old days, we had bleed the line going to each injector. Not as easy or forgiving as a gas engine...
Yeah, I am aware or at least was aware of that issue. Many years ago, aboty 1976 I bought a VW Rabbit diesel, one of the first ones out, so I got some education on that issue. BTW that was great little car (as long as you didn't mind a piss poor heater). I had it in Michigan and the winter required some fuel treatment so it didn't gel, though most gas staions had an additive in the fuel already. I sold it to my brother in law and he ended up getting hit and totaled it when it had 400K miles on it. The only real mainteninace was new injectors.
This thing idles at 750 rpm and at 75 mph it is about 2000 rpm, so Dave is correct about a narrow power band. That rpm (or spped) doesn't seem to change a bit with the cruise on and going up a pretty good hill on I-25 at 75mph. We shall see what we shall see. Pretty wise huh?
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Dave
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Posted: Tue Mar 21st, 2006 01:19 pm |
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No problem Weasle...
Like I said, a Diesel has a narrow power band, like 1600 to 2200 rpm. So, the fuel flow doesn't change a lot.
Since it's a Ford and (I think) it has that PowerStroke engine in it, it should do pretty good on mileage and wear and tear. Those are supposed to be a real good engine...
By the way Zippo - Don't run that thing out of fuel. Old days, we had bleed the line going to each injector. Not as easy or forgiving as a gas engine...
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weasle
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Posted: Tue Mar 21st, 2006 01:06 pm |
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| thanks dave for explaining it , meby zippo wont suffer to much pulling his camper , fuel wise . was telling him my experiences pulling one with a gas motor.
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Mikey
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Posted: Tue Mar 21st, 2006 01:05 pm |
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| We have had some guys in who have just bought new Frieghtshakers..with a mercedes motor...dealer is saying the Co. guarantee's 9 mpg..loaded..Prety good for a semi...
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Dave
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Posted: Tue Mar 21st, 2006 12:54 pm |
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Weasle - I'm really not an expert. But, I remember hearing that from one of my intructors in a class towards the Journeyman certification.
Something to remember, Diesel's have a very narrow power-band (compared to a gas engine) I'm not sure about the modern ones that they're putting in the new vehicles. Ours only rev'd to 2800 rpm. Which when compared to a Cummins or Cat inline 6, was pretty high. Those only ran about 2200 max rpm. Can't remember what Detroits ran at. Those were 2-strokes. But, I think that they ran in the same range. Under 2500 rpm.
Based on what I saw with our trucks. I really didn't see much change when they ran loaded or empty. Seems like it stayed pretty consistant.
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weasle
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Posted: Tue Mar 21st, 2006 12:39 pm |
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| dave know you were a deasel mec , so yer the expert, understand what yer saying about fuel burn in a deasel . guess what i want to know is does weight play any role in the amount of fuel it burns , per mile or per hour ?
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Dave
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Posted: Mon Mar 20th, 2006 10:02 pm |
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Gotta understand how Diesel engine works, it's a little different than gas...
A Diesel will typically burn a set amount of fuel per hour. Not necessarily per mile...
I worked in shop with a fleet of 30 trucks, all Ford C600 (Gas) and F7000 series (Diesel)
C700 with a 360 would get about 4 mpg.
F7000 with a Cat 3208 (626 CID) would get 9 mpg.
Same load and same route. That was before computer controlled engines...
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Mikey
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Posted: Mon Mar 20th, 2006 09:07 pm |
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weasle wrote: hard to believe. dont think ya can fool mother gravity , with a computer. LOL. I agree with ya..doesnt make sense....but thats what I hear...all the add on chips dont amount to crap for them diesels...yer still gonna get the same MPH..who knows...I dont...
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weasle
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Posted: Mon Mar 20th, 2006 08:28 pm |
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| hard to believe. dont think ya can fool mother gravity , with a computer. LOL.
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Mikey
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Posted: Mon Mar 20th, 2006 08:13 pm |
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| Could be really wrong on this...but I have been told that the new diesels are so computer programmed for mph's,,,that you will get the same whether you are empty or pulling a load. Sounds like bullshit to me..but thats what I have been hearing...
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weasle
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Posted: Mon Mar 20th, 2006 07:49 pm |
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| zippo , mine is a 26 ft layton 5th wheel, 6300lbs. i pulled it with a 96 f350 4/4 with a 5.7 gas v8. that truck got 17 mpg on a trip to fla empty not towing . when i towed that camper on some other trips the milage dropped to 13 mpg. havent pulled the camper with this 05 ive got , but am sure the gas milage will drop. you may not drop as much as a gas motor , but my friend the milage will drop.
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zippo
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Posted: Mon Mar 20th, 2006 07:07 pm |
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Marc, I appreciate the update
Weasle, I'll bet it doesn't drop too much. The 5th wheel is a 26.5 ft model, actually 30 ft front to back, probably about 7000 lbs dry weight. Anybody out there with any experience hauling something like this with a stroker?
So far I am loving the damn thing.
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marc
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Posted: Mon Mar 20th, 2006 06:33 pm |
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| I think it is a fifth wheel that he was going to buy from a friend...
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