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jeffy ole boy
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Posted: Sun Dec 16th, 2007 12:45 pm |
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| Hey Dave, sounds like that rebuild on your bike was a real success! No more leaks, burning oil, good compression now... was the ticket huh?
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Dave
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Posted: Sun Dec 16th, 2007 12:38 pm |
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Prices here are sorta droppin' again. Down to about $3.00 a gallon for regular...
managed to put about 50 miles on my bike yesterday. Hit reserve just about 2 miles from home. Gonna need gas before I go too far. Seems like 91 is down in price too. About $3.15 a gallon...
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jeffy ole boy
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Posted: Sun Dec 16th, 2007 12:17 pm |
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| Station just up the road offers a 5 cents discount off the billboard price when you pay w/ cash... reg. 87 octane yesturday was $2.84 a gal.
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marc
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Posted: Sat Dec 15th, 2007 09:36 pm |
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| Just paid $2.90 for Sunoco Regular...
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Dave
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Posted: Fri Dec 7th, 2007 07:25 pm |
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That could be it Weasle...
I don't know how ground water would affect those systems...
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weasle
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Posted: Fri Dec 7th, 2007 07:05 pm |
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| ah i see what yer gettin at , just never seen any around here , must be some reason they dont use them around here. probably cause you go down 100 ft around here ya hit water.
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Dave
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Posted: Fri Dec 7th, 2007 01:25 pm |
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weasle wrote:
dave , the ones around here , in ground , go down about 6 ft , (below the frost line)and work pretty much like a heat pump as the ground stays at 55 degrees. and they normally spread the pipes or whatever they use over a 1/2 acre or so . more efficiant than a pond or well system as you dont have to run a pump to move anything. heat pumps are used around here in conjunction with electric heat , as below 32 degrees a heat pump above ground cant extract heat from the air. Weasle, the ones I'm talking about are for folks that don't have a huge lot to run a bunch of tubing horizontally. They run the tubing straight down, like a well. Takes up less space and accomplishes the same thing...
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weasle
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Posted: Fri Dec 7th, 2007 01:15 pm |
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| dave , the ones around here , in ground , go down about 6 ft , (below the frost line)and work pretty much like a heat pump as the ground stays at 55 degrees. and they normally spread the pipes or whatever they use over a 1/2 acre or so . more efficiant than a pond or well system as you dont have to run a pump to move anything. heat pumps are used around here in conjunction with electric heat , as below 32 degrees a heat pump above ground cant extract heat from the air.
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jeffy ole boy
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Posted: Fri Dec 7th, 2007 11:33 am |
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jeffy ole boy wrote: Dave wrote: What is the electricity for? Just run the pump and a fan right?
I didn't realize that there were that many homes that used it Jeff.
It's gotta be cheaper to pump a bunch of water, than pay for gas/propane heat... Yeah thats it I think... The heat pump works in conjunction with the Central air in the Summer time and Winter. There are two types around here. Some use only outside CA units have the heat pump built right in to it. So its just one large unit with duct work. Most though have an inside heating unit very similar to a regular conv. furnace while having the outside unit for the CA.. Your right this kinda system is more energy effecient and the most common too. The Geo Thermal is the best.. but big expense to put in....
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Dave
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Posted: Fri Dec 7th, 2007 12:57 am |
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What is the electricity for? Just run the pump and a fan right?
I didn't realize that there were that many homes that used it Jeff.
It's gotta be cheaper to pump a bunch of water, than pay for gas/propane heat...
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jeffy ole boy
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Posted: Fri Dec 7th, 2007 12:31 am |
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Dave wrote: That's what I always thought was a "Heat-Pump" system. The ground maintains a set temperature and the system uses that to heat and cool your house. You don't need the 1/2 acre, if I remember right, you can go straight down 400 or 500 feet and get the same results/effects...
Another pricey option. But, people are doing it. See it on "This Old House" once in awhile...
Hey Dave, 3 out of 4 new homes built in the last 10 or 12 yrs around here- have been built with Electric heat-pumps since natural gas and propane has gone outa site. The heat pumps are pretty effecient.
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Dave
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Posted: Thu Dec 6th, 2007 11:56 pm |
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marc wrote:
On the news the other day they did a story on a guy who put up some solar panels and a windmill and sells the excess back to the power company...Don't know what it all cost though...
Marc - That set up cost major $$$ - Solar panels or wind-generators can take you completely off the power grid. Except, here's the cool part. A 2-way meter. Yeah, it credits you for all the power you put back into the grid. All the extra electricity you make, the power company (Edison, etc.) is REQUIRED to buy back!
Solar panels were real expensive, I don't know what they cost these days. OL, my mom and my younger sister all used to work at a place that made solar panels. Applied Solar Energy was the name of the company. OL got downsized almost 18 years ago from that outfit....
I don't know what the Return On Investment is on it. But, there are people doing it and there are subsidies available to help set ya up. Tax credits or something along those lines...
weasle wrote:
lots of ways to get heat , if i were younger , id have one of them system,s that draws heat from the ground, buddy has one , you need about 1/2 a acre to make it work , but it is expensive initually ,but heat from it costs him about 10 bucks on his electric bill. can do it with a well or pond to, but id never live long enough for it to pay off for me. i,ll just keep on burnin wood i guess.
That's what I always thought was a "Heat-Pump" system. The ground maintains a set temperature and the system uses that to heat and cool your house. You don't need the 1/2 acre, if I remember right, you can go straight down 400 or 500 feet and get the same results/effects...
Another pricey option. But, people are doing it. See it on "This Old House" once in awhile...
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marc
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Posted: Thu Dec 6th, 2007 08:36 pm |
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| I also believe that the Govt. (Taxpayers) provides a credit for these types of improvements...
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jeffy ole boy
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Posted: Thu Dec 6th, 2007 08:30 pm |
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| Sounds like your talkin about Geo Thermal Heat Weasle... Some homes around here are heated that way and your right cheap monthly bills, but big initial investment. Be worth it if your going to stay in a home for a long time.... or buy a home that already has it.
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weasle
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Posted: Thu Dec 6th, 2007 08:23 pm |
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| lots of ways to get heat , if i were younger , id have one of them system,s that draws heat from the ground, buddy has one , you need about 1/2 a acre to make it work , but it is expensive initually ,but heat from it costs him about 10 bucks on his electric bill. can do it with a well or pond to, but id never live long enough for it to pay off for me. i,ll just keep on burnin wood i guess.
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marc
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Posted: Thu Dec 6th, 2007 08:12 pm |
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| On the news the other day they did a story on a guy who put up some solar panels and a windmill and sells the excess back to the power company...Don't know what it all cost though...
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weasle
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Posted: Thu Dec 6th, 2007 07:57 pm |
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ya think gas prices are bad , got some fuel oil tus . 3.14 a gallon . be cheaper to live in my truck .
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jeffy ole boy
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Posted: Thu Dec 6th, 2007 04:32 pm |
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empty wrote: Wow, I just did a run to pick up tools for work and noticed regular is down to $2.60. I didn't think there would ever be a time I would think $2.60 a gallon was a good thing. A feller could almost live with that! The boy said he has been filling up in Louisville for $2.82 a gal. Still $3.02 here... Hope the downward thrend continues?
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empty
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Posted: Thu Dec 6th, 2007 04:23 pm |
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| Wow, I just did a run to pick up tools for work and noticed regular is down to $2.60. I didn't think there would ever be a time I would think $2.60 a gallon was a good thing.
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Dave
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Posted: Sun Nov 18th, 2007 11:29 am |
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Abo wrote:
Dave wrote: I know what ya mean Weasle, if I don't pump at least $40.00 in my truck, it ain't worth stopping. $3.35 for regular around here... Must be hard to give up a weeks pay, to fill your vehicle up..... reg 308. I'll be gettin' a raise after the first of the year...
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