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 Posted: Fri Sep 23rd, 2005 03:13 pm
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I think my Ex had a shirt like that too, only about 5 sizes larger.......It was definitly her motto......If I would have shot her when I wanted to, I would have been out by now...LOL

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 Posted: Fri Sep 23rd, 2005 03:07 pm
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I hope you are right.......This is one time I would love to be proved wrong......(I dont say that much)



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Randy, I have to disagree with ya on that one. The Catholic church has screwed itself up and I don't think that too many will really blame or even associate the Baptist, Protestant, Lutheran, etc. religions for the mis-deeds & perversions that have gone on within the Catholic Church.

I've gotta think that the other religions are still gonna have to make or break their own reputations based on their own actions. Now, if it were suddenly disclosed that one of these other religions pulled this sort of crap on the scale that the Catholic Church has, I'd have to assume that there would be some dire consequences for those religions. It could escalate to the point that all religions take a hit. But, I don't see it real soon...

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 Posted: Fri Sep 23rd, 2005 02:14 pm
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Randy, I have to disagree with ya on that one. The Catholic church has screwed itself up and I don't think that too many will really blame or even associate the Baptist, Protestant, Lutheran, etc. religions for the mis-deeds & perversions that have gone on within the Catholic Church.

I've gotta think that the other religions are still gonna have to make or break their own reputations based on their own actions. Now, if it were suddenly disclosed that one of these other religions pulled this sort of crap on the scale that the Catholic Church has, I'd have to assume that there would be some dire consequences for those religions. It could escalate to the point that all religions take a hit. But, I don't see it real soon...

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 Posted: Fri Sep 23rd, 2005 12:34 pm
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The sad part is, that this will give all religions a bad name........JMHO

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 Posted: Fri Sep 23rd, 2005 12:26 pm
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Got this off another board...


This a disgrace!

NBC10.com
DA: Top Catholic Officials Covered Up Sex Abuse Of Minors
District Attorney Releases Scathing Report
POSTED: 12:33 pm EDT September 21, 2005
UPDATED: 9:14 pm EDT September 21, 2005
PHILADELPHIA -- Editor's Note: Article Contains Graphic Content
The leaders of the Philadelphia Archdiocese -- including two former Cardinals -- actively concealed sexual abuse by priests for decades, but no criminal charges can be brought against the church or its priests because of the constraints of state law, according to grand jury findings released Wednesday.
Video: Cardinal Responds | DA Explains Grand Jury Focus | Extent Of Sexual Abuse | DA Recommends Changes To Law | NBC 10 Looks At Both Sides

Lynne Abraham (L), Justin Rigali (R)

In response, Philadelphia's cardinal apologized, but said the archdiocese has obeyed the law.
Following the nation's longest-running grand jury probe into priest abuse, the scathing report documents assaults on children by more than 60 priests, and alleges that former Cardinals Anthony Bevilacqua and John Krol covered up the abuse.
"This is a story that demonstrates a sick pattern of sexual predation, sexual seduction and indecency, rape, sodomy, abortion," District Attorney Lynne Abraham said.
The grand jury produced a damning document, 417 pages long, alleging shocking cases of sexual abuse in the Archdiocese of Philadelphia involving 63 priests, though more than 100 more were investigated.
"I found (the report) to be incredibly biased and, in fact, anti-Catholic," diocese attorney William Sasso said. "There are numerous instances of this through the report."
Diocese attorneys said they had been allowed to review rough versions of the report, but had not been given the final report.
"To protect themselves from negative publicity or expensive lawsuits -- while keeping abusive priests active -- the cardinals and their aides hid the priests' crimes from parishioners, police and the general public," the report said.
"What we're talking about is child rape, children as young as 10 or 11 years of age, both boys and girls were forcefully, illegally penetrated by grown clergymen," Abraham said.
"We repudiate everything of sexual abuse and for the future, as in the past, we renew our efforts to see that children will be protected," Cardinal Justin Rigali said at a news conference Wednesday after acknowledging the "pain and suffering of the victims of clergy sexual abuse" and apologizing to them.
Statute Of Limitations Prevents Prosecution
State laws, including legal time limits, prevented prosecutors from filing charges, the report said. The grand jury also explored the possibility of charges against the archdiocese, but said the organization can't be prosecuted because it is an unincorporated association rather than a corporation.
"Archdiocese leaders have endangered and harmed children in parishes and schools by keeping known abusers in ministry and transferring discovered abusers to assignments where parents and potential victims are unaware of the priests' sexual (problems)," the report said.
Sasso said that the report does not mention the diocese's efforts to fix the problems, including outreaches to the district attorney's office, which he said were not answered.
Among the efforts to help victims, Rigali pointed to the establishment of a victims' assistance coordinators program to provide help for victims who call (215) 587-3880 to report sexual abuse of a minor.
The report names 63 priests "whose abusive behavior was well-documented in archdiocese files and by witnesses who testified" before the grand jury.
Grand Jury Investigation Lasts Three Years
Abraham convened the grand jury investigation in April 2002 amid a nationwide scandal following the disclosure of widespread abuse in the Boston Archdiocese. In the Philadelphia area, church officials have said that 44 priests had been "credibly" accused of sexual assaults since the 1950s but only one priest in the archdiocese has been indicted.
"The evidence is clear. This reaches the top -- the very top of our archdiocese," Abraham said at a news conference. "Regrettably, the perpetrators of these crimes and the people that protected them will never face the penalties they deserve."
"We believe that anyone who has sexually abused a minor, he can be forgiven by God, but the Archdiocese of Philadelphia will not reinsert this person in ministry in any way, no place, zero tolerance," Rigali said. "Now, there are some priests who are indeed repentant and we do have a program whereby they do devote them themselves to a lifetime of prayer and penance, and that's quite independent of any ministry."
DA Calls For Change In Pennsylvania Law
Abraham called for changes in Pennsylvania law that would help to ensure that sexual abuse by priests could not be "so successfully hidden and kept from public scrutiny and criminal prosecution."
Among the recommendations the district attorney's office asked for include:
Craft legislation that would abolish the statute of limitations for sexual offenses against children.
Expand the offense of endangering the welfare of children to ensure that it covers reckless conduct and the conduct of those who directly employ people who take care of children.
Hold unincorporated associations -- such as the archdiocese -- to
the same standards as corporations for crimes committed against children that are sexual in nature.
Enlarge the statute of limitations on civil suits involving child sexual assault.
Read The Reports
Philadelphia District Attorney's Office: Grand Jury Reports
Philadelphia Archdiocese Response

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 Posted: Thu Sep 22nd, 2005 08:44 pm
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He wont get squat back........Now the child he has been paying for the last 4 years has lost the only father she has known........They should arrest her for fraud and put her ass in jail ..Gloria Allred, there is one of the problems there, she is proud to be a man hater.....JMHO




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Here's a perfect example of one of the problems of the Child Support system.

Wrong Man Paid Child Support To Amber Frey
Hairstylist Gave $175/Month For Four Years

POSTED: 2:26 pm PDT September 21, 2005
UPDATED: 4:08 am PDT September 22, 2005

FRESNO, Calif. -- A DNA test shows that the wrong man has been paying child support to Amber Frey.

An attorney said Fresno hairstylist Anthony Flores has been paying Frey $175 a month for nearly four years for Frey's young daughter.

But he said the tests now show the little girl's father is actually Christopher Funch, the owner of Porky's Rib House in Fresno.

Flores was preparing to file a court motion seeking visitation rights, which he has been denied, when the man received word last week that he was not the child's father.

Frey's attorney, Gloria Allred, said Wednesday that her client never intended to deceive Flores.

"Amber, in good faith, always believed that Mr. Flores was her child's father," Allred said.

Frey was thrown into the national spotlight after it was learned that she was the mistress of now convicted murderer Scott Peterson during the time he killed his wife Laci in December of 2003.

The attorney said Flores' reputation has been ruined. He added that he "can't go anywhere without people pointing at him."

Flores said simply, "I want an apology."

http://www.nbc4.tv/news/5003777/detail.html


1) Why did he have to sue her for visitation rights to what everyone thought was his child?

2) Since this isn't his child, shouldn't she be required to pay him back the money he paid out?

3) If she isn't required to pay back the unearned child-support, shouldn't the "real" father?

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 Posted: Thu Sep 22nd, 2005 08:30 pm
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Lets see now.....   424,000 people and if they each get $100.00 a week thats $42,400,000 per week and we know they will extend benefits to a year thats about 2.2 BILLION.  Hang on to your 1040's folks and grab the vaseline!

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 Posted: Thu Sep 22nd, 2005 08:18 pm
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Here's a perfect example of one of the problems of the Child Support system.

Wrong Man Paid Child Support To Amber Frey
Hairstylist Gave $175/Month For Four Years

POSTED: 2:26 pm PDT September 21, 2005
UPDATED: 4:08 am PDT September 22, 2005

FRESNO, Calif. -- A DNA test shows that the wrong man has been paying child support to Amber Frey.

An attorney said Fresno hairstylist Anthony Flores has been paying Frey $175 a month for nearly four years for Frey's young daughter.

But he said the tests now show the little girl's father is actually Christopher Funch, the owner of Porky's Rib House in Fresno.

Flores was preparing to file a court motion seeking visitation rights, which he has been denied, when the man received word last week that he was not the child's father.

Frey's attorney, Gloria Allred, said Wednesday that her client never intended to deceive Flores.

"Amber, in good faith, always believed that Mr. Flores was her child's father," Allred said.

Frey was thrown into the national spotlight after it was learned that she was the mistress of now convicted murderer Scott Peterson during the time he killed his wife Laci in December of 2003.

The attorney said Flores' reputation has been ruined. He added that he "can't go anywhere without people pointing at him."

Flores said simply, "I want an apology."

http://www.nbc4.tv/news/5003777/detail.html


1) Why did he have to sue her for visitation rights to what everyone thought was his child?

2) Since this isn't his child, shouldn't she be required to pay him back the money he paid out?

3) If she isn't required to pay back the unearned child-support, shouldn't the "real" father?

Last edited on Thu Sep 22nd, 2005 08:19 pm by Dave

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 Posted: Thu Sep 22nd, 2005 05:04 pm
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marc wrote:
I agree.....Way to much PC crap going on.....
I usually go out of my way to piss off the pc.....But then again, I get a kick out of it too......LOL

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 Posted: Thu Sep 22nd, 2005 04:07 pm
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Yikes.....

Jobless Claims Related to Katrina Surge

By MARTIN CRUTSINGER, AP Economics Writer

The number of Americans thrown out of work by Hurricane Katrina shot up by 103,000 last week, bringing the total seeking jobless benefits because of the storm to 214,000, the government reported Thursday.

The latest weekly jobless claims figure showed that the adverse economic impact from the country's most expensive natural disaster continues to rise as more evacuees are able to make it to state unemployment offices to file claims.

The 214,000 total number of applications for unemployment benefits related to the hurricane included 91,000 claims for two weeks ago, a figure that had originally been put at 68,000, and 20,000 claims for the week ending Sept. 3.

The 103,000 new hurricane-related jobless claims were out of a total of 432,000 claims last week, which was the highest level for total jobless claims since July 5, 2003.

Last week's total increase was up from 424,000 claims filed the previous week.

Some private economists are predicting that a half million people or more will have lost jobs when Katrina's final economic toll is calculated.

In the government's most complete forecast of Katrina's impact, the Congressional Budget Office has estimated that Katrina-related job losses will total 400,000 for the final four months of this year.

That estimate was made well before Hurricane Rita developed into a massive storm, forcing the ordered evacuation of more than 1.3 million people in Texas and Louisiana. Rita, which was expected to make landfall in Texas on Saturday, has already shut down oil production off the Texas coast and sent oil prices soaring again.

The CBO estimated that the devastation from Katrina alone would cut economic growth by as much as a full percentage point in the second half of this year. However, forecasters believe much of that decline will be made up in 2006 as billions of dollars in rebuilding projects get under way.

The Labor Department said that the biggest increase in claims for the week ending Sept. 10 occurred in Louisiana, an increase of 49,665, with most of those claims related to the hurricane.

Claims increased by 5,177 in Mississippi, with all of those claims linked to Katrina.

The state data lags one week behind the national claims information.

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 Posted: Thu Sep 22nd, 2005 02:55 pm
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I agree.....Way to much PC crap going on.....

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